Ken Ham comes to Europe

February 11, 2008 by Will · 6 Comments
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Both Phil and Ed have linked to this story:

After the Sunday ser­vice in West­min­ster Chapel, where wor­ship­pers were exhor­ted to wage “the cul­ture war” in the World War II spirit of Sir Win­ston Churchill, cabbie James McLean delivered his ver­dict on Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution.

Evol­u­tion is a lie, and it’s being taught in schools as fact, and it’s lead­ing our kids in the wrong dir­ec­tion,” said McLean, chat­ting out­side the chapel. “But now people like Ken Ham are tear­ing evol­u­tion to pieces.”

They seem to think it’s funny, and I guess I can see why; they’ve been living with this level of idiocy for a long time. Per­son­ally, I find it depress­ing whenever it rears its head on this side of the Atlantic.

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6 Responses to “Ken Ham comes to Europe”
  1. Evilmatt says:

    It is depress­ing that this stuff it gain­ing some foot hold in this coun­try. It’s always a com­fort­ing if inac­cur­ate notion to assume the rub­bish is more of an Amer­ican phe­nomenon.
    I’ve just got back from the states and had some dis­cus­sions on this topic over dinner with one of our reps out there and it was grat­i­fy­ing to find that he shared my opin­ion that this creationist/ID stuff has no place in the sci­ence class room even though the guy was some vari­ant of Chris­tian. Still it feels like this prob­ably a minor­ity view over there

  2. Will says:

    I’m actu­ally not sure how wide­spread it is, even in the US. Obvi­ously, organ­isa­tions like the Disco ‘tute, and the Uncom­mon Des­cent group-think want us to think they have massive public sup­port, but when you look at some­thing like The Clergy Letter Pro­ject, you have to wonder if it’s all blown hor­ribly out of pro­por­tion by a very loud, but unrep­res­ent­at­ive few.

  3. Evilmatt says:

    possibly. From what I’ve heard it has had quite an impact in schools even beyond the whole ID cre­ation­ism thing since even when they do teach evol­u­tion the sort of text books they get are very watered down so as not to offend the reli­gious right any more than is strictly neces­sary. I’ve not heard of that over here yet.

  4. Will says:

    Not in state schools, no. But, unfor­tu­nately, it does go on, even here.

  5. Evilmatt says:

    In a vaguely related ham based story they have just set up a “peer” reviewed journal for cut­ting edge cre­ation­ist research.

    Let me give you a sum­mary of the latest bleed­ing edge research and think­ing: “God did it”. Extend that to 200 pages and add a nice cover and you’re golden.

    http://​www.​the​ness.​com/​n​e​u​r​o​l​o​.​.​.​.​.​.​p​h​p​?​p=178

  6. Will says:

    Ah yes, the Answers Research Journal; excel­lent stuff. In a way I almost feel sorry for them; they seem to think that if they dress their bank­rupt ideas up in all the regalia of sci­ence, it will magic­ally gain its legit­im­acy as well. Sort-of like an intel­lec­tual cargo-cult.

    Oh, I like that: “The Answers Research Journal: an intel­lec­tual cargo cult”.

    That might be worth a front page post…

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